Need new graphics card

[fury]

not sucking at games helps a lot..and its cheaper too
 

[Joeseph Geobbels]

^ not from the benchmarks i've seen, when oc'd to 900 at the core, its about 18% on average "better" than the 6970 lightning.  if you take it over 1gig...well it then bridges the gap closer to dual setups but wouldnt wanna do that for heat and power.

comparing one OC'd card to a non OC'd card is like comparing a stock civic to one with all the bells and whistles. the 6970 is worse, but not $150 worse imo.

[TastyTaste]

6970 Lightning IS oc'd but only has 2-3 fps more than stock.  I would say this is a plus because AMD makes a better product right out of the box.  Nvidia makes you "work" for their price to performance cost ratio.  But lucky for nvidia, i dont mind oc'ing.  Works out to be better for my tastes.

[Joeseph Geobbels]

6970 Lightning IS oc'd but only has 2-3 fps more than stock.  I would say this is a plus because AMD makes a better product right out of the box.  Nvidia makes you "work" for their price to performance cost ratio.  But lucky for nvidia, i dont mind oc'ing.  Works out to be better for my tastes.

both are factory OC'd, but your comparing OCing the 580 even more.

[TastyTaste]

http://www.guru3d.com/article/msi-geforce-gtx-580-lightning-review/

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/42992-msi-geforce-gtx-580-lightning-review.html

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2011/06/02/msi_n580gtx_lightning_video_card_review/

http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/3992/msi_geforce_gtx_580_1536mb_lightning_overclocked_video_card_review/index.html

ALL praise the gtx 580 Lightning

both are factory OC'd, but your comparing OCing the 580 even more.

Which i have the option for, you cant do that with the already oc'd 6970 unless you do some crazy voltage tweaking or ln2. ...i can get to 900 on the core without voltage tweaks

[[KEA]Dylan]

Just sold my old radeon 5850 for $255 on ebay and got a zotac gtx 560 ti amp edition for $250 shipped (plus it comes with a $30 rebate extra), so i actually got more for less, and with its stock clocks it's already pretty much as good as a gtx 570, and i even overclocked it more to about 1025mhz core without a hitch and its even better than a 570. pretty awesome card. i was skeptic it would be an improvement from my 5850, but my fps at max settings bumped up from about 45 fps to 85 fps at 1920x1080 in bad company 2. should have no problem running BF3 at max hopefully

[TastyTaste]

should be fine but i heard BF3 will be more cpu dependent

[TastyTaste]

new from AMD 7970 just launched,

http://www.anandtech.com/show/5261/amd-radeon-hd-7970-review

[Flex-]

I wish you spent half the time you spend finding dead posts trying to find my G-Spot.

[Joeseph Geobbels]

fucking 7970. i was excited a month ago, and im still jippy as fuck. it may  not be groundbreaking, but its about half a year earlier than kepler. and its a lot better than expected. and it will only get better after some later revisions. wish they would lower the price, but as it stands right now its just a limited release.