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Title: What do you think?
Post by: D-MAN on August 07, 2009, 12:49:57 AM
Ok ladies. I talked earlier today with a few of you and I REALLY want a new gun. right now I own a RUGER .22 cal long rifle, And i want an upgrade...

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/manufacturers_id/525/products_id/38643 (http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/manufacturers_id/525/products_id/38643)

What I want to know is if you have any pointers for me and this gun...like, how much is the ammo if you have bought it in the past...accuracy..... if I can hook a scope onto the carrying handle or if I have to remove the handle and get the mounting bracket for the scope separately...or any other fun facts you might know to help my buying experience more pleasurable.... Basically make a positive post that makes me want to buy this bad ass gun.
BUT NO LIES! I prefer the truth.  ;D

Oh. and BTW, what is a "single stage" trigger? please explain that....I'm as good with guns as I am with computers, and that REALLY concerns me.

THANKS MUCH!!!
Title: Re: What do you think?
Post by: JoseCuervo on August 07, 2009, 01:08:57 AM
D-man,

Sorry, I dont know anything about that gun.  I bought my first rifle about 3 weeks ago.  It is a Saiga 7.62x39.  The ammo I buy costs $5.99 per box of 20 shells.  The gun I bought comes in 3 models, the .223, 7.62x39, and .308 (7.62x51.)  I don't know if its a lot but I have been through over 300 rounds so far without any problems at all.  The guys at the dealesrhip told me its a lot stronger round then the .223.  They did say that the .223 is more accurate.  I shoot mine from 100 yards with open sights and, again, I have no problems.  Mine only cost me $400(new)compared to what that gun costs.

I live in New Jersey.  Not sure how firearms and ammuntion prices differ from where I am to you. 

I'm a gun newb.  So I dont know what anyone else has to say on it.  Hope anything I said helped. 

-Jose!
Title: Re: What do you think?
Post by: pixiestyx on August 07, 2009, 09:45:45 AM
I shot an AR-15 when I was younger.  223 ammo like this gun and nearly the same gun really.  They make short range scopes that fit on the "handle" as you put it.  It's really your sight rail.  If you're looking to use this gun more for scoped shooting, you may want to look into newer versions with the flat top, which can accomodate larger scopes.

(http://guns.yfa1.ru/eng/image/AR15_A3_Tactical_Carbine.jpg)
(http://guns.yfa1.ru/eng/image/AR_15.jpg)

Notice the top one with the mounted scope, like the gun you're looking at, and in the 2nd picture, the flat top version.  It's a new use of the gun which allows for larger scopes and more additions.
Title: Re: What do you think?
Post by: mr.teeth on August 07, 2009, 09:47:05 AM
Well to be honest id say NOT to buy that just because its semi-auto and just takes away from the M4 feel.. If u want one of these join the military instead and u can shoot one :) Buy a couple shot guns and go skeet shooting its pretty fun
Title: Re: What do you think?
Post by: D-MAN on August 07, 2009, 10:16:09 AM
thanks bunches guys, your words of wisdom have been very usefull.

Jose, yould you be willing to pist a pic of your weapon so I can see the .308 and its...GREATNESS...Thanks!

And pixy. thanks a lot that is just the kind of answer I am looking for. And im not really interested in the fully automatic weapons, they are just ammo eaters, and I like the idea of long range shooting, it makes me feel more powerfull.  ;D .And With that being said, if I had the money I would happily buy the gun in you second picture. thanks much guys, and keep the answers/helpfull words coming.
Title: Re: What do you think?
Post by: Sgt Snot Rocket(bonefish) on August 07, 2009, 10:50:02 AM
Hey D-Man,

 I have a Smith & Wesson M&P15, its very similar to the Olympic.
I have found the best place to get ammo is cheaperthandirt.com They have some great deals on surplus 5.56 and also on .223 if you prefer. You'll be looking at about 50 cents a round, give or take which makes it expensive to shoot all day. There are conversion uppers and kits available to convert it to .22 for plinking and stuff, that really helps as a brick of .22 is around $20.
 I have an Eotech 517 with the a magnifier mounted on mine which works really well, I can shoot the balls off of a bee at 200 yds with it.

 Have fun, be safe and dont fuckin shoot yourself or anyone else on accident, these rounds go a looooong way, be sure of your backstop :)
Title: Re: What do you think?
Post by: ScrotalTorment on August 07, 2009, 04:18:23 PM
be sure of your backstop :)
I find using a crowd at a local small town fair works out really well.
Title: Re: What do you think?
Post by: MIFIVE on August 07, 2009, 11:55:10 PM
Fuck that shit, follow me and I'll show you the light:

(http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l55/Junya_02/akdrum3.jpg)

The 'light' I speak of is the muzzle flash
Title: Re: What do you think?
Post by: Run Away! on August 08, 2009, 12:03:26 AM
Gotta love mifive. Well if your looking for a handgun I love my glock. I got the .22 swap out barrel for it as well as a longer 9mm barrel. Its a pretty fun little gun but yes I understand one might call it ghetto and shit. I also own a 30'6 and a ruger 22 semi auto.
Title: Re: What do you think?
Post by: Ban Em All on August 08, 2009, 12:18:20 AM
I love shooting my ar-15. I think its just really fun. But then again I like shooting guns.
Title: Re: What do you think?
Post by: D-MAN on August 08, 2009, 12:24:05 AM
I love shooting guns too, but they cost like .50 cents a round if you have a high caliber. I just can't really justify it.
thats why I like my .22 for plinking, its like oh,  $13.00 for 550 shells, GREAT deal.  ;D
Title: Re: What do you think?
Post by: Run Away! on August 08, 2009, 12:25:46 AM
Yeah the .22 gets pretty old after a while. Ive been having a lot of fun with my dad and a few friends shooting clay pidgeons lately. Well take out the pump 12 gauges and just shoot away. Ive worked myself up to being able to do a triple with a 5 shot pump. Shit is fucking hard lol.
Title: Re: What do you think?
Post by: Ban Em All on August 08, 2009, 12:28:43 AM
I was never into the whole shotgun thing, atleast for shooting targets, i find it boring. I just like putting it under my shoulder and doing rapid fire. haha.
Title: Re: What do you think?
Post by: MIFIVE on August 08, 2009, 03:35:57 AM
bulk AK ammo is this cheapest high-caliber round you're gunna find anywhere...at cabela's in town here 500 rds of HP or FMJ run about $125ish (it varies, theres a combination of high demand and high metal prices right now, so all bullets in general are higher in price)
Title: Re: What do you think?
Post by: Sgt Snot Rocket(bonefish) on August 08, 2009, 08:27:57 AM
I find using a crowd at a local small town fair works out really well.

 I use the playground at the local pre-school, love the way the rounds go DING when they hit the climbing frame.
Title: Re: What do you think?
Post by: fury on August 08, 2009, 08:46:12 AM
I use the playground at the local pre-school, love the way the rounds go DING when they hit the climbing frame.
i use a chick with a big pair of juggs,it makes up for the recoil
Title: Re: What do you think?
Post by: DinG on August 08, 2009, 10:18:18 AM
god bless america and 100 round drum magazines.. u know.. to fight the taleban on ur backyards,, thats why u need the drums..
Title: Re: What do you think?
Post by: RAMBO on August 08, 2009, 01:08:59 PM
D-MAN, just my opinion on this, I am sure they will work fine, but I don't buy generic guns. It's like generic medicine and condoms. Just doesn't make sense. This passed week me and two buddies have shot quite a few rounds. Some generic guns, some high quality. You can tell the difference. If you want a high quality gun, that is accurate, and can modify (you said scope) it is going to be pricey. The more manly the caliber, the more you pay. However, if you do get a big caliber, buy in bulk as 1K rounds at a time and it'll be a lot cheaper. Just like buying beer by the cans, case, or a keg.
Some top of the line shit right now is the Rugger SR-556 (http://www.ruger.com/SR556/). However, your paying for the quality and the name. It's 2 grand. Or you can get a Bushmaster made for home defense and sporting. (http://www.bushmaster.com/catalog_defense_recreation_index.asp) Its only about 7 pounds with a full clip and can be fully modded with military and non-military parts at $1,250. Or you can go with that inaccurate, plastic, generic brand, bullshit for 700-1000$. But I wouldn't.
Title: Re: What do you think?
Post by: Ban Em All on August 08, 2009, 01:38:43 PM
bulk AK ammo is this cheapest high-caliber round you're gunna find anywhere...at cabela's in town here 500 rds of HP or FMJ run about $125ish (it varies, theres a combination of high demand and high metal prices right now, so all bullets in general are higher in price)
shooting a ak 47 was probably one of my favorite guns to shoot. mainly because it was a automatic.
Title: Re: What do you think?
Post by: MIFIVE on August 08, 2009, 01:55:56 PM
Quote
god bless america and 100 round drum magazines.. u know.. to fight the taleban on ur backyards,, thats why u need the drums..

well you know, according to our gummint, the taliban could be anywhere, even the white-catholic-blue collar-denim wearing american
Title: Re: What do you think?
Post by: D-MAN on August 08, 2009, 03:28:50 PM
Ah, thank you guys. And... I love the semiautomatic firing. But I like the idea of ranged fire. Like 500 yards... And i want the to be able to fix a bad ass scope, .223 or .308 caliber (preferably .223, cuz less kick and cheaper ammunition), and at least a 5 round magazine. See if you can find something like that....
Title: Re: What do you think?
Post by: RAMBO on August 09, 2009, 10:19:01 AM
If you want accuracy, a 5 round clip and scope compatibility I think there is a new Remington out. I will try to find a link. Fuck, it's a 4 round clip but you can chamber one so it will hold 5. It's accurate enough to hunt (less than an inch group at 100 yards).

Also, the gun determines the accuracy, the caliber determines the distance. Hell, I am sure some guns are dead on at 500 yards, but they are going to hit 5 feet low. That is stupid to get that caliber if you want to shoot 500 yards. If you want to shoot far, and accurate you have to get a "flat" shooting caliber.

With the .243 caliber it is still hitting 27inches low at 500 yards.
The .223 hits 35+ inches low.

Ballistics (http://www.shootingtimes.com/ballistics/)

EDIT: Remington R-25 (http://www.remington.com/products/firearms/centerfire_rifles/Model_R-25.asp)  
Title: Re: What do you think?
Post by: Ban Em All on August 09, 2009, 11:18:25 AM
nice rambo. I think I shot a gun close to that remington, but cant remember.
Title: Re: What do you think?
Post by: fury on August 09, 2009, 11:54:45 AM
i know this is gonna sound stupid,given my little knowleadge of long range firearms..but for that range,id just aim to hit one foot above..also,cant you set your scope/aim for that range? i know it defeats the purpose..just trying to make a point

please dont bash..im still recovering from yesterday's vodka contest
Title: Re: What do you think?
Post by: Sgt Snot Rocket(bonefish) on August 09, 2009, 11:58:37 AM
please dont bash..im still recovering from yesterday's vodka contest

I hope you won...REPRESENT!!!
Title: Re: What do you think?
Post by: Ban Em All on August 09, 2009, 12:32:28 PM
please dont bash..im still recovering from yesterday's vodka contest

I hope you won...REPRESENT!!!
you dont know how to quote, do you?
Title: Re: What do you think?
Post by: fury on August 09, 2009, 12:48:19 PM
please dont bash..im still recovering from yesterday's vodka contest


I hope you won...REPRESENT!!!

fixed it for ya..and i dont know who won,no1 knows..after a few bottles of cheap vodka we lost track of who was doing what and why.

i should take a pic of my house right now,if i could find my cell phone..and the bathroom..jesus christ..it wont never be a bathroom again...
Title: Re: What do you think?
Post by: Ban Em All on August 09, 2009, 12:58:27 PM
and the bathroom..jesus christ..it wont never be a bathroom again...

LOL
Title: Re: What do you think?
Post by: Hands Mechanical on August 09, 2009, 08:30:11 PM
cheap vodka is the mofuggin bane of my existence...

downed a handle of vladimir last week*, so fucking gross but it was only like 11 bucks

*after we already tore thru some bacardi and evan williams
Title: Re: What do you think?
Post by: canadian_bacon on August 09, 2009, 08:54:22 PM
i got put in a cell last friday night, i dont really remember what i drank, but it was too cheap to have been a good idea.
Title: Re: What do you think?
Post by: Hands Mechanical on August 09, 2009, 09:03:54 PM
shitty cheap vodka is responsible for most of the bad things that have happened to me while drunk
Title: Re: What do you think?
Post by: Shovel of God on August 10, 2009, 02:24:43 AM
I think you're a pussy.

Seriously, a 223?

That's a damn Varmint gun.

I mean I ain't got much room to talk about guns, but I do possess an AK47, an SKS, an old Springfield .06 some wierd Japanese rifle brought back from the pacific, a mauser 98k a mosin nagant i got at big five two years ago, a 7mm Mag, a Remington 300 WSM two 30-30's a 45-135 and about four .270's, god knows how many 22's a really interesting shotgun collection of 3 bolt action shotguns, one is 12, one is 10 and the other is a 20, a 16 pump, a 12 pump, a 10 side by side, and a couple pistols ranging from .22 to a 44 mag.
Title: Re: What do you think?
Post by: trooper is j on August 10, 2009, 06:37:29 AM
cheap vodka is the mofuggin bane of my existence...

downed a handle of vladimir last week*, so fucking gross but it was only like 11 bucks

*after we already tore thru some bacardi and evan williams
You can make your own 170 proof for $5
Title: Re: What do you think?
Post by: D-MAN on August 10, 2009, 09:08:43 AM
I think you're a pussy.

Seriously, a 223?

That's a damn Varmint gun.

I mean I ain't got much room to talk about guns, but I do possess an AK47, an SKS, an old Springfield .06 some wierd Japanese rifle brought back from the pacific, a mauser 98k a mosin nagant i got at big five two years ago, a 7mm Mag, a Remington 300 WSM two 30-30's a 45-135 and about four .270's, god knows how many 22's a really interesting shotgun collection of 3 bolt action shotguns, one is 12, one is 10 and the other is a 20, a 16 pump, a 12 pump, a 10 side by side, and a couple pistols ranging from .22 to a 44 mag.
how about you sell me a 30-30, :)
Title: Re: What do you think?
Post by: RAMBO on August 10, 2009, 09:39:31 AM
I think you're a pussy.

Seriously, a 223?

That's a damn Varmint gun.

Please call every US Marine and Navy Seal a pussy when you see them holding their M4 Carbine. That's all they use, even though it doesn't look it with all the mods. They all use a .223, but I wouldn't call them a pussy. The velocity is so high in a .223, when it impacts, the back of the bullet bends over the front towards the tip and the bullet shatters which is why it is so devastating for the size.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/90/SOPMOD_2-2005.jpg/800px-SOPMOD_2-2005.jpg)
Title: Re: What do you think?
Post by: mr.teeth on August 10, 2009, 02:01:33 PM
Buy a Desert eagle
Title: Re: What do you think?
Post by: RAMBO on August 11, 2009, 12:42:30 PM
Buy a Desert eagle

Expensive as fuck to buy, expensive as fuck to shoot. .50 cal pistol imported from Israel? You just tried to sound like a tough guy, and you fail.
Title: Re: What do you think?
Post by: trooper is j on August 11, 2009, 04:35:02 PM
get a .416 rigby
You cant go wrong.
Title: Re: What do you think?
Post by: Ban Em All on August 11, 2009, 08:16:28 PM
Expensive as fuck to buy, expensive as fuck to shoot. .50 cal pistol imported from Israel? You just tried to sound like a tough guy, and you fail.
x2, although they are manly guns. haha.
Title: Re: What do you think?
Post by: [OnA] KatherineLian on August 11, 2009, 08:39:35 PM
Ok ladies. I talked earlier today with a few of you and I REALLY want a new gun. right now I own a RUGER .22 cal long rifle, And i want an upgrade...

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/manufacturers_id/525/products_id/38643 (http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/manufacturers_id/525/products_id/38643)

What I want to know is if you have any pointers for me and this gun...like, how much is the ammo if you have bought it in the past...accuracy..... if I can hook a scope onto the carrying handle or if I have to remove the handle and get the mounting bracket for the scope separately...or any other fun facts you might know to help my buying experience more pleasurable.... Basically make a positive post that makes me want to buy this bad ass gun.
BUT NO LIES! I prefer the truth.  ;D

Oh. and BTW, what is a "single stage" trigger? please explain that....I'm as good with guns as I am with computers, and that REALLY concerns me.

THANKS MUCH!!!


Are you a redneck?
Title: Re: What do you think?
Post by: D-MAN on August 11, 2009, 09:43:17 PM
Well Kat, that is debateable. I live out in the boonies....A.K.A. I have to drive an hour and 15 minutes to got to "muthafuckin" wendys...I have 2 dogs, 2 horse, 6 cats, 6 chickens(Mmmm fresh egs), my truck is a beat-up half red/half grey DATSUN 71', my dad is a trapper, my mom works at a wildlife conservancy, I go to a high school where almost everyone grows pot in their bathtubs, And my closes neighbor is about a half a mile away...and we live in a very family-friendly neighbor hood where everyone knows each other and there are no problems. And if that isn't good enough, I have live here for about 15 years and I have NEVER seen a cop/sherifff/CHP, guess its too far for them to go. :) You be the judge.... "Is D-MAN a redneck?!?!?!?!"
Title: Re: What do you think?
Post by: MIFIVE on August 11, 2009, 10:17:37 PM
fuckin redneck
Title: Re: What do you think?
Post by: fury on August 11, 2009, 11:03:21 PM
you might be a redneck if..

your car has never had a full tank of gas.
your front porch collapses and kills more than three dogs.
you've ever been fired from a construction job due to your appearance.
you have more than 10 ceramic statues in your front yard.
you can burp the entire chorus of "Jingle Bells".
you give away more free puppies than the Humane Society.
your screen door has no screen.
your primary source of income is the pawn shop.
you prefer car keys to Q-tips.
you take a fishing pole into Sea World.
you've ever shot someone over a mall parking space.
You let your 14-year-old daughter smoke at the dinner table in front of her kids.
The Blue Book value of your truck goes up and down depending on how much gas is in it.
You've been married three times and still have the same in-laws.
You think a woman who is "out of your league" bowls on a different night.
You wonder how service stations keep their rest-rooms so clean.
Someone in your family died right after saying, "Hey, guys, watch this."
You think Dom Perignon is a Mafia leader.
your junior prom offered day care.
You think the last words of the "Star-Spangled Banner" are "Gentlemen, start your engines."
You lit a match in the bathroom and your house exploded right off its wheels
The Halloween Pumpkin on your porch has more teeth than your spouse.
You have to go outside to get something from the fridge.
One of your kids was born on a pool table.
You need one more hole punched in your card to get a freebie at the House of Tattoos.
You can't get married to your sweetheart because there's a law against it.
You think loading the dishwasher means getting your wife drunk.
Title: Re: What do you think?
Post by: [OnA] KatherineLian on August 11, 2009, 11:09:33 PM
D-Man...

What year in high school are you?/ How old are you?

And yes you most definitely are a redneck. aha
You should just start going around singing She thinks my tractors sexy while you drive into where ever Town may be.






Fury, your last post was amazing and I enjoyed every second of reading it.  In love. lol
Title: Re: What do you think?
Post by: Ban Em All on August 11, 2009, 11:17:58 PM
fury, lol. dman is like 16. so probably a sophomore
Title: Re: What do you think?
Post by: D-MAN on August 12, 2009, 12:00:18 AM
D-Man...

What year in high school are you?/ How old are you?
dman is like 16. so probably a sophomore
Thats an insult banem, I am appalled you would say such a thing. Sophomore. Hahaha!

And Kat in about a week, august 19th to be exact I will be a senior in high school....I'm 17....

And PLEASE ladies/gentlemen don't look down on me cuz im young.....
Title: Re: What do you think?
Post by: Ban Em All on August 12, 2009, 12:05:52 AM
Thats an insult banem, I am appalled you would say such a thing. Sophomore. Hahaha!

And Kat in about a week, august 19th to be exact I will be a senior in high school....I'm 17....

And PLEASE ladies/gentlemen don't look down on me cuz im young.....
you need to put in your birthday on your profile so it shows in the calendar, this way we can remember to wish you a happy birthday
Title: Re: What do you think?
Post by: Run Away! on August 12, 2009, 04:26:53 PM
you might be a redneck if..

your car has never had a full tank of gas.
your front porch collapses and kills more than three dogs.
you've ever been fired from a construction job due to your appearance.
you have more than 10 ceramic statues in your front yard.
you can burp the entire chorus of "Jingle Bells".
you give away more free puppies than the Humane Society.
your screen door has no screen.
your primary source of income is the pawn shop.
you prefer car keys to Q-tips.
you take a fishing pole into Sea World.
you've ever shot someone over a mall parking space.
You let your 14-year-old daughter smoke at the dinner table in front of her kids.
The Blue Book value of your truck goes up and down depending on how much gas is in it.
You've been married three times and still have the same in-laws.
You think a woman who is "out of your league" bowls on a different night.
You wonder how service stations keep their rest-rooms so clean.
Someone in your family died right after saying, "Hey, guys, watch this."
You think Dom Perignon is a Mafia leader.
your junior prom offered day care.
You think the last words of the "Star-Spangled Banner" are "Gentlemen, start your engines."
You lit a match in the bathroom and your house exploded right off its wheels
The Halloween Pumpkin on your porch has more teeth than your spouse.
You have to go outside to get something from the fridge.
One of your kids was born on a pool table.
You need one more hole punched in your card to get a freebie at the House of Tattoos.
You can't get married to your sweetheart because there's a law against it.
You think loading the dishwasher means getting your wife drunk.

Well thats special.
Title: Re: What do you think?
Post by: D-MAN on August 13, 2009, 12:18:10 AM
Well thats special.
Shit RunAway have some fun.... laugh a little....
Title: Re: What do you think?
Post by: Sgt Snot Rocket(bonefish) on August 15, 2009, 10:26:17 AM
I need a few more bits from Rambo's poster but this here is my security system

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Title: Re: What do you think?
Post by: Sgt Snot Rocket(bonefish) on August 15, 2009, 10:27:12 AM
Oh...and this...

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Title: Re: What do you think?
Post by: fury on August 15, 2009, 11:02:48 AM
nice
Title: Re: What do you think?
Post by: D-MAN on August 15, 2009, 11:59:05 AM
Oooooooo pretty....
Title: Re: What do you think?
Post by: Ban Em All on August 15, 2009, 01:24:01 PM
My security


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Title: Re: What do you think?
Post by: D-MAN on August 15, 2009, 03:23:50 PM
How precious. When my cats/dogs fall saleep I tickle their feet.  ;D
And then snuggle them to make up for it....  :D
Title: Re: What do you think?
Post by: DinG on August 15, 2009, 04:37:53 PM
i love the pmags.. we snuck some into our armoury for the officers to use.. they are so frigging unbreakable.. my security are my two dogs and my hk 45 usp
Title: Re: What do you think?
Post by: Sgt Snot Rocket(bonefish) on August 15, 2009, 09:12:30 PM
Hey Ban,

 Dont show that pic to ButtPirate...I heard he's scared of pussy(s)
Title: Re: What do you think?
Post by: fury on August 15, 2009, 09:19:23 PM
again..he pretends to be gay to be friends with all the chicks so he can get in their pants.

Title: Re: What do you think?
Post by: RAMBO on August 16, 2009, 09:27:39 AM
The german shepherd is the most reliable self defense weapon you can have.
Title: Re: What do you think?
Post by: D-MAN on August 16, 2009, 10:29:28 AM
The german shepherd is the most reliable self defense weapon you can have.
Until you forget to feed and water it.